True Existance. getting back on track

Game Design, Story, Game Play.

Should I revamp the whole project like another HalfLife or should I first build som prototype demos.

REVAMP, Some things that should work don't, and there interfering with progress.
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PROTOTYPE, I wan't to see some demos, So what if they don't work very well. Give me an Idea of how this is going to play.
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Post by fps » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:57 pm

i still dont know how to put the image in the post so here is the last of the old shots.
a 50 caliber barret m107 semi automatic sniper rifle ( :shock: w/ incendiary armor peircing rounds :shock: ) in the daytime lit level with a nighttime sky. oops. :roll:
also inside the glass walkway.
you can see my poor blocky geometry throught the window. look at the different glass textures.

edit:
nevermind. there it is. duh. :oops:
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Post by darksmaster923 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:52 am

wuts the game about
Herp derp.

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Post by Agentarrow » Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:26 am

it looks like an assasin type game, like where you're payed to kill people, but thats just judging by the pics
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Post by fps » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:30 pm

:!: this is both a small spoiler warning and an apology :!:
i understand that there are members here who make games based on the bible and other such religious teachings that my games plot will not only conflict with but outright challange. HOWEVER. the game is simply a work of fantasy, not intended to change your way of thinking about yourself in any forcefull sort of manner. it is just a game with a religiously conflitive SCIENCE FICTION plot. so please dont allow that to upset you as it is truly not intended to.

pressing on.

the game is about religion, not religoin like christianity but religion in the same sence of belief in theroies of creation.
not to say that religion is wrong.
I simply put some theoretical and scientifical as well as fantasy elements into a common theme in humanity to make the story of my game so that it will be both interesting and personally moving.
the game is about the wars fought in the blind belief in somthing that is beyond our mental grasp.
the game is still a shooter, and the plot is driven by several main charectors who live out their lives of violence guided in secret by a lone believer. (who is represented as a assassin with a phycopathic alternate personality claiming to be the "son" of the creative force behind the univers)
the purpose of this believer is hidden through most of the game.
because you are not the believer.
you play as several people who have importance to the assassins goal.
you play as the following in the following order.

An American "black" operations specialist.
An English espionage and intelligence agent.
A German security guard in a XXX top level security scientific weapons research facility.
The Son of creation in the body of a scientist from said facility.
???


in the end, the most sinister and senceless of actions seem to make the most sence. and the impossible becomes the most pressing problem. and your goal is to balance all of existance and creation from corruption. by destroying it.

see my other post for more information on plot structure.

thanks,
fps


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also i am thinking of having a few levels that have no relavance to the games plot so you can just mess around with your carector and fight lager numbers of enemies and blow stuff up.
mabey and unlockable.
mabey the test sequences and the stuff that didnt make the cut.
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Post by fps » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:22 pm

I am planing on releasing a demo soon.
some time after turkey day i think.
just an alpha with my basic leves and a few enemies and weapons.
remember that tis game is an alpha of a prototype so please dont rip on me too hard.
a lot of features arent implemented yet.
i also plan on posting that damn texture pack this weekend.
after i break it into parts that is.
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Post by Destron » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:10 pm

FPS:

Nice job so far. I like the ramjet-style sniper rifle :)
One thing that I noticed right off - somebody may have already mentioned it - your hudgun is too far to the middle of the screen. IMO, it needs to be farther left. If you have a toy gun or something lying around, you could try holding like you would in a video game and see where it is in relation to what you can see.

And I'd love to see a demo :)
What you've got so far looks promising. More than I've done, anyway. :P

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Post by fps » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:29 pm

a toy gun. . . :) .
you should read the post on juttis' game.
realistically you would never want to discharge a firearm in any manner besides looking directly over the top throught the sights.
in a videogame however this looks really poor, cause you dont get to see the shiny side of the gun. just the blocky sights and such.
i have already repositioned the weapons. for some reason the old physics install messed up all my rotations.
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Post by fps » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:12 pm

weapons available in alpha demo.

fists. . . for the punching of faces. (says so in the game)
combat knife
katana (it works and its ready to go but i need pawns to use them too, as a seccondary weapon)
baretta 9mm pistol
baretta 9mm pistol w\lazer sight
hk socom m23 .45 cal pistol
hk socom m23 .45 cal pistol w\silencer
Desert Eagle XIX 50 cal (alpha model)
spas 12 12ga shotgun (pump action only for now)
Colt Commando 5.56 w/lazer sight
hk g36c 5.56 w/scope
hk g36c 5.56 w/scope & silencer
m16 w\GL 5.56 (scarface style alpha model)
m16a4 5.56 w\precision scope
m246 squad automatic weapon 5.56 w\lots of freaking bullets
m203 grenade launcher (attached to the m16 (animation mistake in the reload animation))
Fragmentation Hand Grenade

I have more weapons ready to go an all but they are for other levels and i think that i will save them for later.
atleast untill i can start successfully scripting them and have them do other cool things besides shoot, reload, be empty, ect...
i also may have forgotten some of them for this level. but i'll have to see after work today.

the demo i will be releasing will include the alpha of the "Black Rock" scientific facility. named after the black rock desert not the black mesa facility.
there are multiple ways to complete the black rock mission. some are easier then others. some are more rewarding. none are implemented yet.
in the demo you will just be shooing it out with some elite assassins and trying to rescew some security guards and scientists in the process.
a lot of elements are still incomplete but if you don't like it then you can bite the head off a live bat for all i care. just kidding.
you may notice a durastic change in texture quality in Black rock upper beta airstrip. (the level with the freakin airstrip in it).
yea. im not even planning on going back and fixing it right now.
if i can get the thing to stop crashing while trying to load levels that load fine when played individually i will release a demo some time after thanksgiving.


also, after i get my game functionality working i am planning on adding a secerts level that you have to explore to find and play through missions and levels that didnt make the cut.
kind of like a skirmish mode but you have to explore around a random level to find the change level entities.
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Post by fps » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:33 am

frick. this thanks giving weekend has been busy. i had a lot of stuff to get done. a lot of hunting. a lot of studying. a lot of home work. a lot of time with my girlfriend.
i lot of time sooo burnt out that i couldent thing straight for 10 consecutive secconds.
this is why i turn down drugs fellows. im in trouble as is.

oh well. i am alpha testing my first 3 levels. independantly they work sometimes if i change my graphics driver around from open gl to direct 3d and back a lot.
but when i try to change leves i run into a lot of fatal crashes.
it makes me want to commit violent crimes against inanimate objects in my immediate surroundings. (notice how anger causes me to frequently bring big words into my speech, if i wasent angry i would have simply said. . . it makes me want to break things. :roll: )
anyways. my demo wont be ready till i can get these levels running with a sence of flow, and also they should work.


i am really tempted to ask (beg) one of the skilled level developers to help me model out my levels with some skill. that house of shadows thing ran incredibly well on my computer and my leves are simpler and run like carp. (carp are fish and dont run cause they have no legs. try it sometime)
there are a lot of moving parts in even my most basic levels. and in my first level sometimes i come up with these layers in the walls that dont show up in anything but the 3d view. i dont know why there there but they might be slowing my levels fps down. and you guys know how i like fps.

oh well again.. in short demo delayed on account of. . . life.
suggestions guys???
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Post by vrageprogrammer » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:20 pm

Woah.....
I think you should take a week off, cool down, go on vacation or something, and then come back.....
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Post by fps » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:48 am

dude, that was my week off.
thanks giving break and all.
thats life i guess. besides, your probabl right about the vacation stuff.
but i've only taken 4 real vacations (no counting funeral trips to long island) in 18 years.

:)
thanks for the suggestion,
trust me. i'm considering it.
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I GOT SOME FRAPS VIDEOS HOW DO I POST THEM!!!!

Post by fps » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:35 am

whaaaaaaaa!!!! Yeeeeeehhh!!! Ooooooooh!!!!!!!
I finally got some videos of my game!
how do i post them so you can all see them?

Its my ELITE combat construct test level with some randomly floating lights and mispositioned weapons.
its the laptop version so it is missing the complete-osity of the other game installation!
there are some temporary model, sounds, animations, scripts, effects, weapons, voices. ect...

BUT I WANT YOU. to see my freakin video.
i am very excited. (as if you couldent tell) so tell me were to post???
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Post by zany_001 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:56 am

you tube, then post a linky.
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Post by fps » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:57 am

OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by zany_001 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:13 am

*disturbed*
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