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Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:14 pm
by paradoxnj
Yours is a newer version than mine (0.4.0 to my 0.3.2). You must be using the unstable version.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:28 pm
by bernie
You must be using the unstable version.
Yes I am, the format has changed and v0.4 will not load v0.32 files so its better to use unstable. There is unlikely to be much more change to unstable version before the release. Guru has almost finished caelum - just the clouds to do now and a few minor bugs I believe and a pre-release will be ready.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:50 pm
by Voltare
I am calm, i'm just asking questions that i think are valid....
I'll give this newer version of ogitor a try...maybe it works better than the last.
But I still am confused as to why there can't be 4 windows.....
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:13 pm
by Allanon
Voltare wrote:But I still am confused as to why there can't be 4 windows.....
4 windows are good for modeling but not needed for placing the models in the world. You can use a 4 window modeling application to create the objects then use Ogitor to place those objects in the world. Also you can save and switch camera views easily in Ogitor so you could create the 4 camera views you want and switch between them as they are needed.
I just tried Ogitor and like the terrain editor but can't figure out how to get lights to render. I can place a light but I don't see it's effect, are they implemented yet?
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:55 pm
by Voltare
If the 4 windows thing ain't useful anymore....why does unreal dev kit still use it?
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:04 pm
by Allanon
Voltare wrote:If the 4 windows thing ain't useful anymore....why does unreal dev kit still use it?
Never said it wasn't useful, just saying Ogitor doesn't need 4 windows because you are not building complicated models in the program. You import already built models in to Ogitor. With Unreal's editor you use brushes to build complex geometry and 4 views is useful for doing that.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:27 pm
by bernie
Sorry allanon i haven't messed with lights so I don't know. Go over to the Ogitor forum
http://www.ogitor.org/forum/ and ask there they are very helpful. The big problem is it's all WIP and no documentation yet and its still in a state of flux. I did take a quick look and i could only get 1 light to work and that was by setting caelum to night time, but that seemed to light up the whole level and then only the models and not the terrain. I haven't messed with indoor stuff yet either. There is so much to alter in the lighting properties so it's best to ask them.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:28 am
by paradoxnj
Voltare wrote:If the 4 windows thing ain't useful anymore....why does unreal dev kit still use it?
Unreal still uses it because you are using UnrealEd to build geometry. Ogitor cannot build geometry. It places geometry that has been exported in the form of Ogre Mesh, Terrain heightmap, textures, etc... For example, to make a terrain in UnrealEd, you need to cut a cube brush out of the world, tag a terrain zone, add a heightmap. To do that in Ogitor, you just select the terrain tab, tell it where the terrain.cfg file is in the preferences, and you have a terrain. You could mess with the terrain by deforming it, splatting it and other operations.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:04 pm
by Voltare
can we switch some of these ogitor posts over to a separate section under rf2 programming? cause i' know i'm going to have questions galore........
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:16 pm
by Allanon
Just started to play with
Cre8or. It allows you to import models, scenes, and animations created using
Anim8or and turn them in to a game. It's still in beta and still needs work but it seems like it might be good for prototyping a game. It's also has a couple of things in common with RF2, it uses uses the Squirrel scripting language and the Ogre engine for rendering.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:21 am
by darksmaster923
The interface is just like gamemakers. Looks pretty cool, I''ll try it out
Unreal Engine 3 Development Kit (UDK) goes free for non-comm
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:10 am
by lprd2007
Epic Games has released a free edition of Unreal Engine 3 for educational and non-commercial use.
The Unreal Development Kit gives users access to the 3D game engine technology, Unreal Editor, Unreal Content Browser, UnrealScript, Unreal Matinee, Unreal Cascade and other tools.
Previously, non-commercial access to the Unreal Engine 3 toolset had been available only through the PC versions of games such as Unreal Tournament 3 and the Gears Of War series.
Epic said that the UDK contains all the most recently added Unreal features and enhancements, and that it will release ongoing, upgraded builds for free.
“I’m excited about the possibilities the Unreal Development Kit opens to those who are looking to get into the game business but don’t otherwise have the means to acquire world-class technology and tools like ours,” said Mark Rein, vice president of Epic Games.
“UDK is Unreal Engine 3, which has been used to create games in a wide range of genres, as well as military simulations, 3D architectural walkthroughs, animated movies and more. Users are only limited by their imaginations."
Download Here
System Requirements:
MMinimum:
o Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista
o 2.0+ GHz processor
o 2 GB system RAM
o SM3-compatible video card
o 3 GB free hard drive space
Recommended for Content Development:
o Windows Vista 64 SP2
o 2.0+ GHz multi-core processor
o 8 GB system RAM
o NVIDIA 8000 series or higher graphics card
o Plenty of HDD space
Moved to 3d engines by bernie.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:25 pm
by Matte
If you want a non-tolerant community: check this out.
http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=722468
HOW was I comparing Source and UDK? I could've aswell said: should I use brown or yellow paper? :s
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:02 pm
by Allanon
Epic probably doesn't want comparisons made to other engines on their site because they sell their engine and don't want the shortcomings of the engine to be exposed. Plus they don't want to draw attention to competitors.
Re: 3D engines
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:44 pm
by Matte
Yes, that is true, but you can't buy a commercial license of UDK (yet). And also, I clearly said that the UDK was better, and only named Source once. After I explained my point of view to the moderator, Flak, I didn't get a reply for 34 hours now, while he has been online a few times in that timespan. Anyway, long live RF!