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Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:56 am
by jonas
Great links, I thought about trying to learn vb .net a while back, but decided it was probably better not to dabble in to many programming languages at one time. But I do remember using the Visual basic studio express 2005, I think it was just one embedded object and a browser was up and running in seconds with out even having to code at all.

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:00 am
by steven8
jonas wrote:Great links, I thought about trying to learn vb .net a while back, but decided it was probably better not to dabble in to many programming languages at one time. But I do remember using the Visual basic studio express 2005, I think it was just one embedded object and a browser was up and running in seconds with out even having to code at all.
That's pretty close. I have known people who criticized me for programming in vb, but then I showed an old timer who had only programmed in straight C, and he thought it was great that programmers didn't have to re-invent the wheel everytime like he had to do!! :lol:

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:19 am
by jonas
Yes sir! Seen the power when I first started the program up. I think its great that microsoft is actually making it easy to develop applications. Finally its becoming about the user and making it easy for them. But from what I saw it seemed like they accomplished a very well developed language. If I ever stop piling more languages up then I might actually use it. lol Right now i'm playing around with php for web development stuff. Then for my game project i'm using c++ and python(which I still am working on getting familiar with).

I googled making a web browser in vb I got This in the first result. lol

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:37 am
by MakerOfGames
Visual Basic is a very good programming language however, I dislike that it restricts programs made with it to Microsoft operating systems. I would have never cared about this before, but this past December I dumped Vista Basic off of my laptop(Acer Aspire 3680) I got for college and put Ubuntu(7.10) Linux on it. It runs so much faster now and is extreamly reliable. Anyhow, now that I am off of the "Microsoft island" meaning that I no longer have a fear of leaving the Windows platform, I don't like platform specific programs anymore. They only seem to fuel the divides that hampers true productivity and advancements for computers. If you can't tell already, I am all for the open source movement :D.

But aside from that I do actually like VB. It was the first programming language I learned in High School, VB 6.0.

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:31 am
by steven8
MakerOfGames wrote:Visual Basic is a very good programming language however, I dislike that it restricts programs made with it to Microsoft operating systems. I would have never cared about this before, but this past December I dumped Vista Basic off of my laptop(Acer Aspire 3680) I got for college and put Ubuntu(7.10) Linux on it. It runs so much faster now and is extreamly reliable. Anyhow, now that I am off of the "Microsoft island" meaning that I no longer have a fear of leaving the Windows platform, I don't like platform specific programs anymore. They only seem to fuel the divides that hampers true productivity and advancements for computers. If you can't tell already, I am all for the open source movement :D.

But aside from that I do actually like VB. It was the first programming language I learned in High School, VB 6.0.
I am a HUGE proponent of open source. I've had Dapper and Feisty on my computer, and tested Gutsy Gibbon. Ubuntu is an incredible OS. I reverted to Windows to smooth things in the house. Everyone wanted Windows and many things wouldn't run in VirtualBox. I do like MS's products, although I do not agree with their business practices.

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:33 am
by MakerOfGames
I was able to find my old "Evolution" web browser project so here it is. Just one thing is that the program name needs to be changed. Evolution as I called it is actually a program for Linux. They hold the respective copyright for the name.

Inside the zip folder there is the original Visual Basic Express Edition 2005 project file.

EDIT: My next post, a few posts below, may help you understand the poor quality of coding that can be seen in this project. If you do not like my awful coding style, I know it is bad already :lol:. That is all :P.

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:25 pm
by vrageprogrammer
I wish everything was open source.....

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:29 pm
by vrageprogrammer
jonas wrote:Great links, I thought about trying to learn vb .net a while back, but decided it was probably better not to dabble in to many programming languages at one time. But I do remember using the Visual basic studio express 2005, I think it was just one embedded object and a browser was up and running in seconds with out even having to code at all.

I'm currently on VB, C++, C#, SimKin(Duh..), Java, Html, CSS,...

Although I;m not the best, I think I do reasonably well in most of the above languages. :D
Tutorials are my best friends.

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:31 am
by steven8
vrageprogrammer wrote:I wish everything was open source.....
1976 - the beginning of the end of open source for all things:

http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:31 am
by MakerOfGames
Oh, just letting whoever downloads my old web browser a few things...

I know the code isn't clean in my project. that was from when I was hacking through guessing at the nice little code suggestions to get things to work right because vb6.0 is A LOT different from EE 2005.

Sorry for the lack of comments as well, I never planned to release it to anyone but myself.

And lastly, I assure you coders out there that my coding skills are much better and refined. I comment when necessary and organize it now, so don't worry about that :P. I just let myself get sloppy for this. I actually did plan to rewrite most of it to have it look cleaner and function better.

And about the end of open source back in 76', it makes me wonder how Gates got so far with an attitude like that. That I feel would only have encourage more people to pirate as it has an offensive tone. I do understand the massive amount of software theft and his tone is only natural, but it seems unwise to give a threatening message when you don't have control of the market. I bet most people back in those days wouldn't have thought twice about software legality after reading that message.
As the saying goes, “You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:34 am
by steven8
MakerOfGames wrote:As the saying goes, “You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”
You know, my grandma always used to say that. It sounds good fundamentally, but not in reality. Vinegar may not catch flies, but it does catch dollars!!!!

http://evan.snew.com/ecgi/gates.cgi?041 ... 1347700802

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:09 am
by MakerOfGames
steven8 wrote:
MakerOfGames wrote:As the saying goes, “You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”
You know, my grandma always used to say that. It sounds good fundamentally, but not in reality. Vinegar may not catch flies, but it does catch dollars!!!!

http://evan.snew.com/ecgi/gates.cgi?041 ... 1347700802

I agree that vinegar can catch dollars in this case, but with open source gaining more and more support, I bet the honey will win after all :wink:. You can't beat the friendly members of open source!

Re: Finally Got .NET working :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:19 am
by jonas
I have an acer aspire as well, it came with vista on it. I love the way vista looks, but it just ran like a snail...So I as well, installed ubuntu on it. I customized it and now it looks exactly like vista, my family members can get on and do basic things, and never realize that its not windows.
steven8 wrote:
vrageprogrammer wrote:I wish everything was open source.....
1976 - the beginning of the end of open source for all things:

http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html
Very interesting letter. I hadn't seen that before. Gates... I never knew that was his full name. William Henry Gates the 3rd. I guess you learn something new every day. :D