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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:46 am
by Destron
Another option is going for an older version of photoshop. They're plenty good - Photoshop 7 and CS1 (PS8) are fine candidates and are probably cheaper now that cs3 has come out.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:20 am
by Agentarrow
cool. I'm looking at a NIB Graphire 4 5x6 for $45 It sounds like a good deal if yours was $100

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:40 am
by MakerOfGames
Wow! $45 bucks! Of course I got mine 3 years ago I think it is now.... Three years already?! Time is relentless. Anyhow, thats a good deal. Its a good tablet and it should come with some bundled software. At least mine did. I got Photoshop Elements 3.0, Corel Painter Essentials 2, Just Write Office(Office suite add-in to use tablet in MS Word etc...), A screen mark up tool, and Nik Color FX pro add-in for Photoshop Elements. I really liked Photoshop Elements 3.0 but sadly it doesn't work on a 64bit system. I used to use it A LOT on my old pc, but my new one can't run it. With PE3.0 you can make some pretty darn good images.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:45 am
by Agentarrow
yeah, It has the tablet, a wireless mouse (to add to my collection, so much better than the notebook touchpad) a stylus, stand, replacement stylus, replacement stylus touch tips, and a couple bundle programs :)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:48 am
by Destron
Don't you mean Wacom?
And btw - the wireless mouse that came with my Graphire really sucks. I never use it. But then again, I never use my tablet in the first place :/

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:08 am
by MakerOfGames
*Note: Are we way off topic yet?

Anyhow, I agree the mouse that comes with the Graphire isn't the best. But I guess it can be useful to some. Really, I think its the active area of the tablet that diminishes the usefulness of the mouse. The smaller tablets cause you to constantly pick up the mouse to pan the whole screen or the mouse becomes too sensitive and becomes hard to use because the slightest move causes the mouse to move proportionally on screen.

Oh yeah thats the other thing you can do on the tablet, you can set the tablet to be in a pen mode where wherever you hold the pen over the tablet the mouse jumps to the spot and everything is proportional to the screen, or, you can have it in mouse mode which mimics a standard mouse in which moving the pen causes the mouse to move and it wont jump into position.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:17 am
by Agentarrow
Destron wrote:Don't you mean Wacom?
And btw - the wireless mouse that came with my Graphire really sucks. I never use it. But then again, I never use my tablet in the first place :/
NIB means New In Box

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:22 am
by Destron
oh. :wink:

Seems like a really good price. Maybe too good. Make sure it's not a scam or something before you buy. :!:

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:41 am
by Agentarrow
It's E-BAy,, it also has $5 shipping and the seller has a 100% satisfaction rating on over 50 auctions (100% positive feedback) However, the price went to $55 since I last checked, and I fear it might go out of my budget...

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:29 pm
by MakerOfGames
Yeah, pen tablets are expensive. I was looking at Wacom's website last night and the cheapest pentablet they have is the bamboo for $79 and bamboo fun is $100 The next step up is the smallest Intuos for $249.

If you can find a graphire for that cheap I would definitely get it.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:48 am
by Agentarrow
:\ I went back today and I got outbid by $100 and the auction ended... I'll look some more, but I am going to disney world next month and I'll want to buy stuff there too. Theres the downtown disney shopping district, and the internet cafe at disney quest.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:00 am
by MakerOfGames
Keep looking and you should find some. I found my exact pen tablet up for auction on EBAY. It says its never been opened, brand new, and... welll look for yourself.
Wacom Graphire 4 (Metalic Blue)

And here is my ebay search by lowest price:
Wacom on Ebay

I guess thats a 4x5... I must correct myself, my pen tablet is a 4x5 as well not a 5x6 as I stated before. Sorry.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:21 am
by Agentarrow
cool, but I'm not going to shop again until after I get back from disney.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:30 pm
by Allanon
Just found another paint program called Pixel Image Editor that might have the features you need but doesn't cost an arm and leg. This paint program is $30 dollars but their is a demo versions so you can try before you buy. They have versions for Windows, Linux, OSX and a few others.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:50 pm
by Agentarrow
cool thanks