Reality Factory

ok, this is a serious question, so please try and stay on topic here, i would like to know a list of items that would be saved.

to clarify if WW3 occured next week and a few things could be saved through means of a space ship or nuclear bunker that was inpenetrable, what relics would be kept, for example i know all of you USA guys would want the decleration of indipendence saved, other examples could be the original copies of shakespear plays, original works of famous music composers, remembering there is going to be limited space, so no statue of liberty or pyremids of egeypt.

Well it's being done already in a bunker in the arctic. Seeds are the only thing worth saving, to ensure a food supply if anyone should survive. inanimate objects The declaration of independance (No offence to the Americans), the works of Shakepeare or famous paintings are totally useless for survival and would just use up space for the more important life saving things.
You can't eat the works of shakespeare etc. ( Just ask DM he know about food )

Well, I dont think he means for survival but more a testament or legacy of our existence, I think. Otherwise I would say a man and a woman.

Assuming that there would be no escape from our demise, I would say to add the bleuprints of our genetic make up. Perhaps, some day, some alien finds it and has the (technological) abilities to resurrect the human kind.

Or a man and several women (I volunteer to be the man )
Seriously though the chances of aliens making it to our solar system are extremely remote if at all(although one can never dimiss it altogether), so saving stuff for a legacy is a complete waste of space in my humble opinion. Again saving just the human species would be a waste of space too, we need the animals and vegetation for anyone to survive if we were to start over

but in computer games these such things can happen, so humor me, genetic makeup of all living creatures would be good, i am after as much important stuff as possible.

hey what?

i would bring a photocopier.

Sorry Scott I should have realised. I took the mention of seriousness in your post too seriously. Actually I was just saying to my missus over dinner that it would be the basis for good game or part of one. Apart from the genetic make up there's the whole eco system to put right again, so a history of the geology of our planet would be necessary. This would have to be in a form that any other intelligent life form would be able to read and decipher if it were to reconstruct our system. It would also have to be able to survive in incredible length of time in a harsh environment and be easily found also. I'm not too sure about our history for instance if a peaceful species found it they wouldn't want to recreate us but on the other hand if it were a warlike species (Klyngons or the like) maybe they would. It might be useful to leave plans of our technology I know that any species that found us would have to be very advanced, but, they more than likely would have different technology to us and it might enhance theirs. Now that could be a reason to revive us and could be a reason for two soecies to fight over who gets it.
Anyway I'm rmabling other folk will have idea's too.

most of what you have suggestead can be stored in a computer of some sort, wich can hold infinate information, i was looking towards the object orientated library of mans creation, something that if a few humans survived somewhow they could keep as a record, yea sure you can have the decleration of indipendence on a hard drive and screen but to actualy have it would mean alot more.

and yea i used the word serious and on topic because i am needing this for part of my project and didnt want people coming up with less than apropriate answers.

For "symbolic" purposes:

My family's photo albums.
An american flag
Our country's historical document (dec. of independence, constitution, bill of rights etc.)

For more practical "information saving" purposes

A top-of-the-line computer
A 1 petabyte external hard drive containing all my personal files, along with the contents of archive.org's servers, also every popular video game from the past 5 years.

darksmaster923 wrote:hey what?

i would bring a photocopier.

And then a minute after the shuttle's launch you realize the toner cartridge is empty!

lol, ok, this is very interesting to see how people have interperated the question, i dont want to say its wrong becase its not, and maybe this might be a better subject because it was interperated differently.

what i ment was, for world leaders to save, like if there was an ultimate library/museum a sort of archive of human beings for example, what would be in it, for example it could be the pen that was used to sign the dec of indipendence, the gun that was used to shoot JFK, the oldest version of the bible, a signe document to drop the nukes to end WW2, something with historical value that is not replacable, so you say a photocopier, while you may think this is an awsome item, it can be remade with the same meaning and purpose, sure you could make a copy of the oldest surviving bible but would it be the same as actualy having the oldest bible in the world?

A very detailed history book(s), and maybe a hard-copy of wikipedia, since you want objects Literature and Music from all ages (not just the classics) to give a more accurate description of our development. The most updated science/math textbooks, and all academic journal volumes from the past 2 years (since this work won't likely be in textbooks). The various mythologies of the world. I'm a huge fan of those stories.

Stuff that is specific to only one country (e.g. Declaration of Independence, etc) wouldn't really be that important since they only represent a small subset of the people. Instead, we could include in the history books mentioned above information about the political systems of all our nations, and the history of their development.

Destron wrote:For "symbolic" purposes:

My family's photo albums.
An american flag
Our country's historical document (dec. of independence, constitution, bill of rights etc.)

For more practical "information saving" purposes

A top-of-the-line computer
A 1 petabyte external hard drive containing all my personal files, along with the contents of archive.org's servers, also every popular video game from the past 5 years.

darksmaster923 wrote:hey what?

i would bring a photocopier.

And then a minute after the shuttle's launch you realize the toner cartridge is empty!

out of toner? that would be terrible! how would i photocopy food to eat?
a petabyte? what did peta make a byte named after it?
or is that 1000 terrabytes

Yes, there's also exabytes, zettabytes, and yottabytes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte

you mean lottabytes

Well, out of all practicallity, if such an event would happen, I believe all the data of the world would be stored in a solid state master database that would contain many, many, yottabytes. The physical size of the drives necessary to store it would probably take up the amount of space that you were thinking of for physical objects to save.

Now, on the other hand, if you are looking for a list of objects that would be saved to be viewed in a game space, the "reality" there would have to be skewed. For that, I would say that each government would place its most prized possessions in the vault. Yes that means that it would probably include things like the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution long with all the other governments doing the same thing. Also, depending on the dimension of reality you would like to create you would follow more traditional items as I have stated above, or you go get really creative with the idea if your reality will be designed for a different feel.

If you want more action, maybe weapons would be stored. If you are going for more of an exploratory section, you could include important inventions such as the first airplane.

I know that wasn't the answer you were really looking for, but I hope it helps.